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Revision as of 18:25, 25 March 2009

Apps

Wanted Apps

If you want an app added, list it in the following format:

*[[Page name|App name and version]]

Apps deliberately not included in HBB

This list could change, and was not made by Teknecal

Title Reason
AnyRegion Changer Add extra barrier to prevent unsafe usage
AnyTitle Deleter mod Add extra barrier to prevent unsafe usage
Channel File Manager Add extra barrier to prevent unsafe usage
Mii Channel Updater Add extra barrier to prevent unsafe usage
Preloader Add extra barrier to prevent unsafe usage
Starfall Add extra barrier to prevent unsafe usage
WAD Manager Add extra barrier to prevent unsafe usage
Wii Linux Too large

Questions

DVD-X

Does the DVD-X Installer download come with PatchMii so it can install the patchmii version for modchip users? or is patchmii a seperate app you have to install altogether?

PatchMii is a separate application for modchip users which can be found here: http://hackmii.com/2008/08/libdi-and-the-dvdx-installer/ --Teknecal 08:46, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Message Board

I quote this from the Homebrew Channel/Bugs page " but I prefer to leave my WiiConnect24 on, as I get messages from Nintendo and the Homebrew Browser, and I like to be notified when they arrive." Is it true that HBB gives out notices? If so I have yet to receive one. Pinball wizard 00:09, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes it's true but firstly you need to add hbb@codemii.com to your Wii address book. A few days later you'll get a confirmation email and then an email when applications have been updated. --Teknecal 08:42, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

The HBB used to work fine,, But i don't know what i did, patch mii dvdx maybe?(thats the only thing i can think of. but now the HBB doesn't work... it says connecting to server, server connected now loading homebrew browser and then it restarts homebrew channel. Or if it can't connect it says error (i am not home now so am not sure but i think error-ret 115) and it says retrying (infinately until i get a code dump error.) any Idea how i could fix this? Thanks Durda Dan Feb 20. 2009

Suggestions/Comments

v0.3 Development

HBB needs a new interface. http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1483/hbbv030prototypejx9.jpg. Any suggestions or comments? --Teknecal 14:16, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

That looks pretty cool :) --Mjbauer95 19:01, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I've made a new design with a bigger text size. You can see it here: http://www.gm-alex.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/homebrewbrowser.jpg I hope you like it and Teknecal will use it. GM_Alex

About page: http://www.codemii.com/hbbv03_about_test.dol. Are there any suggests or comments anyone has about this? --Teknecal 12:46, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

I think thats good, but I guess you want to move the Download/Delete buttons into the About window - which would require two clicks to install/delete an app. Perhaps it would be possible to select multiple checkboxes in the Main Screen, and then press a Download (or Delete) button that appears below the list ? (Have a look at this mockup - this would download ftpii, wiidoom and scogger) --Alanceil 18:43, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Are you still looking for designs? I am working on a flash file as a suggestion for you. You can decide wether you like it or not or even if you want to look at it. Pinball wizard 01:27, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Not really looking at the moment but it's always welcome, maybe you'll come up a design that may improve the functionality. --Teknecal 00:52, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

How about making it so we can put in our own background music and make a default background music if we dont want to put in our own. -- Gamewizard71 01:21, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

How about custom templates and a default design if we dont want to change its design. -- Gamewizard71 01:22, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

A ROM column. -- Gamewizard71 01:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

ROM downloads are not exactly legal... So no. --Bg4545 09:23, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

v0.3 Suggestions

I don't know if this is possible or not, but a search feature would really help me because my internet is a bit slow so the constant downloading the next page of apps takes a while for me to find what I want. Great program and thanks for the hard work! -Peachrules 05:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I think what would really help v0.3 is if you hover over one of the buttons, but not the apps (ex. thumbs up, star, trash can, question mark icons) is that a little blip would pop-up and tell you what this button is for. (In other words a little speech bubble) -- Gamewizard71 22:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes I see, just like v0.2.5b does. --Teknecal 08:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Homebrew Channel Banner updating with latest Homebrew

This is a bit of a lot to ask and probably not possible due to the Homebrew Channel developers lack of openness, but I think it would be cool if the Homebrew Browser would update the Homebrew Channel's banner according to new Homebrew apps, similar to the Wii Shop Channel. I do not expect this to actually happen but just to get a suggestion out there just in case :). --Mjbauer95 00:41, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

That would require a new release of the HBC which, if I understand correctly, will soon be deprecated. So, don't hold your breath. Also, don't accuse the HBC devs of lacking openness. Try, instead, to be appreciative. -- MetaFight 02:28, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Currently the development of such a channel banner is not possible. We do not currently understand how it works to do such a thing. Pinball wizard 23:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Easy Access

Is it possible to make a channel of this for the system menu for easy access to the HBB. This way it could be like the Wii Shop Channel. Thanks! OJ

The difficulty with this is extra code (not too difficult, mind) would have to be added in order for it not to crash if you forgot to insert the SD card. You can, of course, DIY by using a tool (can't remember what it's called <_<) available SOMEWHERE on the internet. --Lukegb 22:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
You won't see a channel version anytime soon, since there's no legal way to make a channel. The only channel code out there is Nintendo's code, and the Homebrew Channel's code, both of which the author's haven't given permission to use. All the channels you see out there use Nintendo's code, and this is copyright infringement. --Tantric 23:18, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Sponsors

This app is great but I know it must cost something to operate the servers and stuff. Did you ever think of getting sponsors to pay for these expenses and other hastles?

It's hosted on a shared server for $10 USD a month. I haven't thought of sponsers as I just host other websites on the server as well. If you want to help cover the cost, you can always click the ads on codemii :P --Teknecal 05:28, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Are there ads? I don't see any. --Mjbauer95 19:02, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Oh right, it should have been but I updated Wordpress and I must of forgotten to add them again. Added --Teknecal 06:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


Background Music

Help out by finding and linking us to any calm music loops so we can decide which one to use.

Loop_01 Loop_02 Loop_03 Loop_04

Robert Rich: Past Glances Parallel Horizons Felix 13:58, 4 July 2008 (CEST)

Definitely 'Loop 3'! Quixada 03:31, 7 July 2008 (CEST)

I agree on loop 3 IF teknecal does this feature. It sounds the most wii-oriented. Pinball wizard 16:44, 11 July 2008 (CEST)

Loop 1: Too much beat for BG music. Loop 2: Sounds a little too old school for Wii. Loop 3: I'd have to agree that this is probably best... Loop 4: ...But this one is fine too.--PCDude2143 23:40, 13 July 2008 (CEST)

I'd like to put in the background music but am not great with threads. I've tried but can't get the mp3 to keep playing in the HBB. If anyone has a threading example which can loop an mp3 and do other things like draw graphics/display pictures, etc, please post a link to it here. --Teknecal 16:44, 19 July 2008 (CEST)

I found 3 more loops for backgound music that I think would sound good on the HBB. What do you think?

BBT Loop 1 BBT Loop 2 BBT Loop 3

--Big Bang Theory 23:46 31 July 2008 (CEST)

From the First 4, my favorite is loop 3, I also liked all of Big Band Theory's, the second one kind of sounds like the temple of time, For the 3rd one I can't recall which game but I'm sure there is something similar to it in Mario Galaxy or 64 I think. --DrMario 01:08, 2 August 2008 (CEST)
Out of the first loops, 3 or 4 but personally I prefer BBT Loop 1... It's catchier :) --Neversoft 20:21, 6 August 2008 (CEST)

I have some of that calm music that you wanted for the Homebrew Browser. it's the music that is played when you run Windows XP for the first time- if you have Windows XP, you can find it at this directory: C:\Windows\system32\oobe\images\title.wma. I hope it suits you well. --yoshicircuit 20:49, 11 August 2008 (CEST) (i like that tune, i use it while an installation of apps i create Adamdmasi 09:51, 8 November 2008 (UTC))

loop 3 is cool Adamdmasi 09:51, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Loop3 and BBT Loop 3 are both the ones I'd go with. --ANinyMouse 06:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Custom Icons

I don't see much of a need to do this in the immediate future but you could add the ability to change the icons for HBC in HBB. You could have the person be able to download "packs" or just the single ones. Not much of a push but just a finishing detail for you. Pinball wizard 01:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

SDHC

One of the biggest annoyances for me when downloading a new homebrew app is not knowing if it is sdhc compatable or not. Even just add a * at the end of the description or something would be very useful.

This ready in HBB v0.3. Am I right in saying that applications that were made before SDHC was implemented that don't have any files or load or save files to the SD card are still SDHC compatible as all that's used is the dol/elf file? --Teknecal 11:43, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
If they're self contained like you say, then yes. --Tantric 14:09, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

HBB Issues

Open, use {{Talk:Homebrew Browser/Open}} - OPEN
Received, use {{Talk:Homebrew Browser/Received}} - RECEIVED
Solved, use {{Talk:Homebrew Browser/Solved}} - SOLVED (will be moved to the archive page)


HBB Freezes on Download/Update OPEN

For some reason, anytime I click on update or download, HBB freezes after the download is completed. It hangs at the 100% extracted point. The only solution is to do a hard reset, but that reveals that the application is downloaded and installed properly.

I am running 3.4U HBC 1.0.1. --Kooseefoo 07:39, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


SD Write Protected Crash OPEN

I recently set up Homebrew on my parents' Wii and they have a MicroSD card in a regular sized SD Adapter. Well, the Write-Protect switch likes to get moved into the locked position when I insert the card into the Wii. Turns out that if the SD card is locked, HBB will crash (code dump) during an update or crash (some error code) on the main screen. Can't it fail elegantly and say "could not write to SD card" or something like that? Deozaan 02:52, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Never really tried that, but I'll try and see if there is a way to do this. --Teknecal 08:09, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

icon.png Updates OPEN

Does the "Update" application button also update the application's icon.png? My Little Ball recently got a graphics overhaul, which was reflected in the HBB with a new icon.png and a new version to download, but, once downloaded, the local icon.png didn't change. Has anyone else encountered this? -- MetaFight 17:20, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

That is correct, your icon file won't be updated. I will add a function to turn this off or on in HBB v0.3 --Teknecal 07:35, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Cursor Hotspot OPEN

I noticed the other day that the cursor's hotspot doesn't rotate correctly with the cursor itself. For example, if I rotate the cursor 90deg CCW the hotspot will be slightly above the finger instead of on its tip. I figure this is just an issue with setting the hotspot's pivot point. -- MetaFight 19:14, 09 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I really go to get that sorted, anyone have some code which does so? --Teknecal 07:35, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Actually, I think I stated the problem incorrectly. The hotspot itself shouldn't move during a pure rotation. Instead, the cursor should simply rotate around the hotspot. I'm pretty sure this is how most apps handle it. So, for example, if the hotspot is (cursor.X + 5, cursor.Y + 5), the cursor should rotate around (5, 5). I don't know if I'm being clear. I'm pretty bad at explaining these things. -- MetaFight 18:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it does make sense. I think the easiest way would be to do as Squidman suggested to me, just double the image height and make the hotspot the middle, that way when rotated the hotspot will always be correct. --Teknecal 08:09, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Not In Order SOLVED

The stuff listed in HBB are not in the order of date anymore. Just to let you know. I realized it when items from january were before february and such. Pinball wizard 00:18, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Your probably talking about Utilities? One item was just out of place and has been fixed. --Teknecal 11:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, at least I think that was it. I assumed that HBB downloaded all the data and sorted it all out for listing purposes within itself. Pinball wizard 01:26, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Failed Update Kills HBB OPEN

Something is screwy with the HBB's server today and although the HBB found a new update, it failed upon trying to download it. So it deleted boot.elf but didn't update and replace it with a new one. I had to manually install the new version of HBB. I'd suggest some better error handling there ;) --AerialX 20:11, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

More error checking added. --Teknecal 14:08, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Crash during browsing SOLVED

Experienced crash while browing emulator category on 0.2.3b. Clicked back button during browsing. Stack trace: 80022f70 00000032 800043a4 8004a9a0 8004a93c --Tantric 08:14, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Let me know if you have any issues with v0.2.5b. --Teknecal 14:08, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Haven't had any issues like this for quite awhile, I'd consider this solved. --Tantric 21:48, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Can not initialize internet connection OPEN

I am currently using a Wii with 3.2 firmware, and homebrew channel beta 8. I have installed and gotten plenty of apps to work fine, however I have never been able to get this application to work. It just says that it cant initialize with the network. Opera works fine, weather channel, wii connect 24, and the Homebrew channel had updated automatically when I installed beta 7. Is there are a port you would recommend opening up on my router to try and solve this issue. I have a feeling my routers firewall is blocking it. Its an actiontec wifi router that comes standard with verizon fios.

The Homebrew Browser uses HTTP on port 80 to get all of the data... So unless port 80 is blocked by your firewall, I don't think that's the issue. However, I have heard of other people having this same issue without resolution. Can I ask specifics about how your Network connection is set up on the Wii? As in, Wireless, Nintendo Wifi adapter, Wired... Static IP, Automatic, Proxy.... ? Any info would be helpful --ProdigySim 19:12, 22 July 2008 (CEST)

So i use the wii's built in wifi, with automatic configuration on a WEP key. I believe its 64 bit WEP, but it may be 128 bit. I can check when I get home. I will try disabling it though when I get home and see if that changes anything. --DaveyDucati 14:53, 22 July 2008 (EST)

So I resolved the problem by placing my wii in a DMZ in the routers settings. I also noticed that the homebrew channel doesn't connect to the internet unless the wii is in the DMZ as well. For some reason my firewall doesn't play nice with homebrew. I can try to email you a log of my firewall activity if you like. --DaveyDucati 20:16 22 July 2008 EST
It appears that after one successfuly connection, I could not log in again. I Switched to WPA on my wifi, and I did get it to work, but i dont know if thats just one time because it involved resetting my router. I will do more testing tonight. If the wii is in the DMZ though it cant be a firewall issue. I would keep it on WPA, but not all wifi devices in my house support it. --DaveyDucati 09:16 23 July 2008 EST
The other case I had heard of got resolved, and it was also a case of using automatic configuration (AOSS). He changed from that to a manual configuration and it began working. --ProdigySim 07:31, 24 July 2008 (CEST)

I now have my router set to no security, but to only allow certain MAC address, and the homebrew channel seems to work. --DaveyDucati 18:13, 24 July 2008 (CEST)

Have you tried to disable wiiconnect24 before starting HBB?

I'm having this same problem. (To post above, I just tried that, and it still doesn't work.) --Sin 09:47, 1 August 2008 (CEST)

I had the same problem using wireless and WEP, but it seemed that changing to a Static IP solved the problem. --tpw_rules 22:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Another thing to try is to disable WEP. I spoke to had a user who couldn't initialise the network and when they disabled the WEP security, it worked.

Greetings! The only way to fix the "Unable to initialise network, exiting" error for me, is using a non-encrypted connection or WEP.
WPA and WPA2 do not work. Can anyone confirm this? --SpyroDragon 02:36, 24 September 2008
WPA2-AES working fine here, Turning off WiiConnect24 fixed the "Unable to initialise network..." error for me. --Tarv 03:09, 17 November 2008 (CST)
It seems like 1/4 times I load the HBB it is 'unable to initialize'. is this normal? --Cyndaquil 02:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

On my Wii, I've only got it to work 5 out of around 40 tries. WEP, WPA (AES), or no encryption doesn't seem to really matter. Could a retry button be added to Homebrew Browser when the network fails to initialize, instead of immediately exiting? In the Homebrew Channel, if I repeatedly retry connection, it works about the 2nd or 3rd time. I'm using IOS36 with the latest (0.2.5) Homebrew Browser and and Homebrew Channel (1.0.1). --digitalcircuit36939 12:47, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

v0.2.5b now keeps retrying the network if it can't initialise it. --Teknecal 14:08, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Upgrade problem SOLVED

Hello Teknecal, When i'm tryning to update with network, it's impossible ton do it When i want to update from the version 0.2.4, a code dump bug appear THX

When you press A to update, is that when the code dump appears? Can you try downloading an application in HBB v0.2.4? --Teknecal 00:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
My HBB upgraded fine from 0.2.4 to 0.2.5, but when I started the updated version a code dump occurred. I used FTPii and deleted the settings file. It appeared to have been created wrong and had odd characters in its name. HBB works now and I was able to change the settings in it. --Spnorth 15:50 December 13, 2008
That's strange. I've updated HBB again to check if the file can be read when it's loading the settings.xml file so that should be fixed. --Teknecal 00:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I had the same problem, my file was called setting㦍. Thanks Spnorth for the solution. --Crayon 23:38, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I have this kind of problem, but my settings file is fine... Uploaded a video, but I don't think that it helps. (Quality sucks because of Youtube) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhlI_QFsYpA --Predator Mario 15:44, 15th December 2008 (GMT+2)
Can you try this: http://www.codemii.com/2008/12/13/hbb-updated-to-v025/#comment-673 --Teknecal 08:35, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Update problems SOLVED

When updating to the latest version of HBB, I get the dreaded "This is not a valid Wii aplication message" Is anyone else getting this? Toagac 18:16, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Can you check to see if you have the dol file? --Teknecal 00:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I have the same problem, I have the boot.dol file however it's quite smaler (15972 bytes) than original([1]) at 771200 bytes. Steinark 19:06, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
That's strange, I suppose I should add a file size check once the update has happened to check that it's the right size. --Teknecal 08:43, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
The problem might be that the memory card was out of freespace, it had 2.9Mb free. Now I'm using a larger one, and it's working fine :-). Steinark 19:40, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
You actually bring up a good point. I should add a check to HBB to make sure that there is enough size on the SD card to download the application. --Teknecal 08:46, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Checkmark Colors RECEIVED

Is it possible to make them different shapes instead of the colors? Hate to bother you with such simple things but me being also partly colorblind cannot tell ANY difference in the checkmarks. Thanks. Pinball wizard 00:23, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Yossi suggested using a question mark ?, do you think that would work alright? --Teknecal 09:09, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Sure, Just more or less anything that involves different shapes for the too. Pinball wizard 02:43, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Utilities not changing SOLVED

Hello, When I update the applications (14/03/09), I don't download the utilities.

This has been fixed. For some reason HBB doesn't like it when I add cheatmanager or even the name, will have to look why it happens. --Teknecal 11:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
This has been fixed now. --Teknecal 01:46, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Long Wiki Page

May I suggest breaking off the section for the apps added to the HBB into a sub-page? --Pinecone 17:26, 7 March 2009 (UTC)