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Sub Pages

I was wondering if there was a reason for the homebrew apps to be sub pages as opposed to individual pages. Using sub pages on articles can complicate mediawiki wikis as they generally employ a categorical structure as opposed to a tree structure. It can also cause too many sub pages, IE sub pages of sub pages of sub pages. I propose that future homebrew app article pages be created on their own full article page and instead of using this sub page structure, use only Category:Homebrew_applications along with Homebrew_apps. And also, if possible, to move previous homebrew apps to their own article page. --Hiker13526 19:50, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

Really bad idea to remove them, would make the wiki untidy. Besides, for the apps, it is a tree and categorical. And how would it cause subpages of subpages? Muzer 00:52, 5 May 2008 (PDT)
I agree with Hiker here, subpages is not a good idea. I recommend a similar solution as over on meta wiki, that is, create a new namespace for these pages. Looks pretty much the same in the urls, but is less subpages and more a real way of sorting it. (Note: Do not just add pages with a new prefix, the wiki admin must add it in the settings for things to work properly.)--henke37 01:01, 5 May 2008 (PDT)
Subpages do not keep the wiki more tidy, that is what categories are for. A wiki is not a tree structure and was never meant to be. It is linked categorically, like a web. It does cause sub pages of sub pages because I wanted to add subpages to WiiHL for translation ini files but that would be a sub page of a subpage that shouldn't exist. Having a sub page for something like a translation file would be a correct usage of the feature. To have a successful tree structure sub pages of sub pages are needed. Otherwise it isn't a very good tree. But I do not think that is what we should be aiming for. Instead, I believe that having a number of different categories, nav templates, and list pages is a far better method of organization. Wikipedia doesn't even allow sub pages on the main namespace because they know people would abuse it far beyond its intended usage. Subpages are great for the Project namespace or User pages but they have a very small need or want on the main namespace. I recommend we move all the current incorrect uses of sub pages to be in the root of the main namespace. Although something like this has never been decided before on this wiki I feel we should set some precedence for it. Voting, that is. As has worked on many wikis before, a majority vote seems fair unless anyone has good reason otherwise. --Hiker13526 07:51, 5 May 2008 (PDT)
I still think that a proper namespace to organize things is the best solution. It makes it easy to separate normal articles from this radically different content, a catalog of homebrew applications.--henke37 14:24, 5 May 2008 (PDT)
Quoting Meta-Wiki's MediaWiki help: "Namespaces allow, among other things, a separation of content from policy and discussion. They encourage separation of the pages of a wiki into a core set intended for public viewing, and private information intended for the editing community." Homebrew pages are part of the content, therefore, should be in the main namespace. I agree with Hiker13526: remove the subpages, and use categories instead. Felix123 22:07, 5 May 2008 (PDT)
I disagree with you there, you say that they allow to separate content from misc things. This is true, but what you fail to mention is that they don't force it. To reuse my mediawiki example, the extensions is still part of the content, just not the same part as the main pages. I feel that this is the same case, a clear sub part of the content that belongs in a separate namespace. A sub site so to speak.--henke37 15:07, 12 May 2008 (PDT)
We all agree that using subpages is not an optimal solution. Lets solve this sooner rather than later otherwise we will have even more pages to move. Felix123 05:53, 21 May 2008 (PDT)
"Namespaces allow, among other things, a separation of content from policy and discussion." I agree with henke37. Nintend06 01:30, 25 June 2008 (CEST)

Controls?

The icons used for the Controls aren't a bad idea, but they look kind of silly whey they only have the one direction on them. As discussed on Image_talk:ButtonUp.png, images that show the entire D-Pad with a direction highlighted like Image:D-Pad BtnUp-arn.png should be used instead. --Phred 05:22, 27 June 2008 (CEST)

Yes,the icons used for the d-pad controls do indeed look silly,and I do agree that showing the entire D-pad would make them look better. What does everyone else think of this? --Ds342
I agree. And remember, Be bold, especially with improvements like these. --Blooper4912 03:02, 3 July 2008 (CEST)
A new category has been created with all the controller buttons. The new D-Pad images are used. Developers should start to use those templates on their apps page. --Crayon 22:10, 4 July 2008 (CEST)
Much better Xyrion 03:27, 9 July 2008 (CEST)