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== Has anyone updated yet? ==
 
 
Anyone who used the Shop Channel updated (IOS 50, and 51 I think), with System Menu 3.2U update to 4.0? Will it update safely? --[[User:Piko|Piko]]
 
:I'm wondering the same, i have the ios shop hack installed and System Menu Version 3.2E, but i'm not going to update untill i either know it's safe or someone tells me how to uninstall the ios shop hack. --[[User:Wiibrewfan4|Wiibrewfan4]] 20:06, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 
 
::Yeah, I just updated with a Wii that has the shop channel patchmii used on it. It updates fine. --[[User:Piko|Piko]]
 
 
 
Yeah, someone who's updated, see if HBC works. --[[User:Funkamatic|<font face="Copperplate Gothic Light"><font color="red">FUNK<font color="black">A</font>MATIC</font></font>]][[User talk:Funkamatic|<font face="Impact"><font color="black">  ~talk</font></font>]] 17:17, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 
 
 
Just updated my PAL Wii. The Homebrew Channel is still there and from what I can tell normal Homebrew applications still work fine. Tested a few games like Mahjongg Wii, Smashing and Horror Vacui. --[[User:Botskiz|Botskiz]] 18:23, 25 March 2009 (GMT+1)
 
 
:sweet, thanks Bitskiz!--[[User:Funkamatic|<font face="Copperplate Gothic Light"><font color="red">FUNK<font color="black">A</font>MATIC</font></font>]][[User talk:Funkamatic|<font face="Impact"><font color="black">  ~talk</font></font>]] 17:28, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 
 
::Out of curiosity I tried copying the Homebrew Channel to SD and launching it from the SD Menu. Even that works like a charm, from what I can tell. --[[User:Botskiz|Botskiz]] 18:30, 25 March 2009 (GMT+1)
 
 
:::WTF?! that's freaking sweet.  Does DVDx work? (no skin off my nose, I don't use it) If it does, what did nintendo even do to limit HB?--[[User:Funkamatic|<font face="Copperplate Gothic Light"><font color="red">FUNK<font color="black">A</font>MATIC</font></font>]][[User talk:Funkamatic|<font face="Impact"><font color="black">  ~talk</font></font>]] 17:31, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 
 
::::Not sure if DVDx Works or not, since I never had it installed, but Twilight Hack Beta 2 doesn't work anymore. --[[User:Botskiz|Botskiz]] 18:43, 25 March 2009 (GMT+1)
 
 
::So what isn't working about HBC ? The "effect" described on the page is a little bit ambiguous... [[User:WendelScardua|WendelScardua]] 18:45, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 
 
:::::Read Hackmii--[[User:Arikado|Arikado]] 18:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 
 
Wow, that's fairly neat that the HBC launches from the SD card directly. Not that it makes a huge difference, since you have to have the channel installed in the first place before it can be copied to the SD card in the correct (and signed) format for your Wii to launch it. But still, that's awesome.
 
 
Not that it actually launches from the SD card. It copies it to the wii, runs it, and deletes it when you quit. --[[User:11rcombs|11rcombs]] 06:04, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 
 
So, any word on whether or not 4.0 includes any code that updates the Wii automatically? It's occured to me that the update to the network policy might well have been to clarify the things that Wii Connect 24 already do, which is to update content for the News and Forecast channel and other WC24 enabled channels. I dunno, perhaps their legal jargon was challenged at some point and they had to rewrite it, unless there's evidence that they're putting that change to use anywhere?--[[User:Thegamefreak0134|Thegamefreak0134]] 03:47, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 
 
I updated my wii and it seems pretty god, the homebrew I checked all worked, not that I checked that much, but it's pretty good if you've already got the HBC installed --[[User:TwoBladedKnight|TwoBladedKnight]]
 
 
[PAL,EU] I updated to 4.0, copied the HBC to SD and now its neither runnable nor movable. So: no Homebrew for me :( --[[User:Honkymania|Honkymania]] 15:06, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 
: Learn to read, [[System Menu 4.0#What is affected]] [[User:LoganA|LoganA]] 15:56, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 
:: NOT affected: The Homebrew Channel (previous install) -> affected indeed.
 
::: "Affected: The Homebrew Channel (new install) '''''New install and if copied to the SD card, cannot be move back to the system memory (or started in at least one case).'''''"  The information is there.  It's in the wrong place, but it's there.  And please sign your posts.  -- [[User:MetaFight|MetaFight]] 06:01, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 
 
== I did the first changelist changes ==
 
Direct launch from SD card and SDHC support. --[[User:NavadeHo|NavadeHo]] 17:34, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 
:looks good to me, NavadeHo. --[[User:Funkamatic|<font face="Copperplate Gothic Light"><font color="red">FUNK<font color="black">A</font>MATIC</font></font>]][[User talk:Funkamatic|<font face="Impact"><font color="black">  ~talk</font></font>]] 17:46, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 
::People don't seem to get how this doesn't launch from the SD card. It just copies the channel over, runs it, and deletes it when done. --[[User:11rcombs|11rcombs]] 06:05, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 
:::That's right, the channels are being copied to the NAND memory of the Wii first and are not booted directly from the SD card.
 
::::What's to get?  What do you think it does when it load's from the internal memory?  Every system, including computers, copies from a long term storage to a faster type of memory, then clears the faster memory when done.
 
 
== SDHC ==
 
 
Finally SDHC support!!! Updating NOW! I don't care, even if I could NEVER use HB again, this update is the best ever! Edit: I even can run HBC fully off the SD card :p [[User:Sanderevers|Sanderevers]] 18:56, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 
 
:Sander... <_<" [[User:NavadeHo|NavadeHo]] 19:30, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 
::He is a traitor! :O --[[User:Initrd.gz|Initrd.gz]] 22:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 
 
== System Menu 4.0 and HomeBrew SD Card? ==
 
 
Can someone clarify how this update affects a Homebrew enabled SD Card? I am personally worried that, although there is mention of the update not affecting previous installs, there is nothing about whether the update re-formats the SD, or overwrites the file system of the SD! Obviously a full SD backup is recommended, but is it a must???
 
 
:The update itself does nothing at all with the SD Card, so anything you stored on it will still be there after the update.
 
::Nintendo can't decide to just format your SD card ;) That wouldn't be legal [[User:Sanderevers|Sanderevers]] 14:11, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 
 
== All Hype ==
 
 
Wow. I updated because it looked interesting and i new it wouldn't break HBC. Its extremely boring. Yawn. Its a lot less amazing than it sounds. The SD menu is basically a speedier version of copying stuff to the wiis nand and running it, something that you could have already done. It just automates the process of copy/run/delete. SDHC support is a good thing i guess. Those were the only really noticeable things. Im glad i updated, for SDHC, but other than that, its a big fail for ninty. --[[User:ChuckBartowski|ChuckBartowski]] 02:52, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 
 
== Formatting ==
 
 
I just want to know that if I upgraded to 4.0 (now on 3.2E), decide it is crap and format, what version would I go back to? Would I go back to the version that was presesnt when I purchased my Wii (Sept. 07) or a later one? --[[User:Danny|Danny]] 30 March 2009
 
:No, you'd still be on 4.0 even after formatting. All formatting would do is delete your saves and channels. --[[User:Piratesmack|Piratesmack]] 21:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 
 
== other wiis ==
 
 
since the hbc is launchable from the sd card menu, if i put my sd card in some1 elses wii with sm 4.0, would i be able to lauch the hbc on their wii? or would there be any way to get it to?
 
[[user: bgoode2006|bgoode2006]]
 
:It isn't. So no. - [[User:Michaelh|Michaelh]] 13:43, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 
  
 
== Talk page not for tech support ==
 
== Talk page not for tech support ==
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:I agree --[[User:SquidMan|SquidMan]] 16:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 
:I agree --[[User:SquidMan|SquidMan]] 16:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 
:: Me too. feel free to edit as appropriate. --[[User:Bushing|Bushing]] 09:17, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 
:: Me too. feel free to edit as appropriate. --[[User:Bushing|Bushing]] 09:17, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 
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:::Done.  Maybe I was a bit too harsh, but I couldn't see how any of these comments had anything to do with the [[System Menu 4.0]] ''page''.  All the posts were either statements of personal experiences, a series of random characters followed by twenty exclamation points, or offtopic questions/requests. Feel free to revert if I went overboard. -- [[User:MetaFight|MetaFight]] 14:39, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
== Patch for 20 pages limit in SD Card menu?! ==
 
 
 
Is it possible to somehow patch the sd-card menu to allow for more than 20 pages? With a 16 GB SDHC we're probably reaching the limit quite soon. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Grunz|Grunz]] ([[User talk:Grunz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Grunz|contribs]]) 12:52, 26 April 2009 (UTC)</small>
 
:Fail, only really rich people and pirates would care. I doubt you will own 180 '''legal''' vc/wiiware titles anytime soon, and if you do then to bad, start deleting. --[[User:Rhys|Rhys]] 13:02, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 
::Doubt what you want, but you don't need to be "rich" as you call it in order to afford that number of games... btw: 12*20 equals 240 as far as I remember ;-) It would also be interesting if it were possible to patch the normal system menu to have more then 4 pages (hint: this equals 48 channel entries ;-) ) <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Grunz|Grunz]] ([[User talk:Grunz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Grunz|contribs]]) 16:31, 2 May 2009 (UTC)</small>
 

Revision as of 16:39, 20 May 2009

Talk page not for tech support

Am I wrong in thinking this page isn't supposed to be tech support for System Menu 4.0? Having tech support questions in here just encourages more people to ask. I propose that these types of questions be removed from this page. -- MetaFight 03:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree --SquidMan 16:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Me too. feel free to edit as appropriate. --Bushing 09:17, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Done. Maybe I was a bit too harsh, but I couldn't see how any of these comments had anything to do with the System Menu 4.0 page. All the posts were either statements of personal experiences, a series of random characters followed by twenty exclamation points, or offtopic questions/requests. Feel free to revert if I went overboard. -- MetaFight 14:39, 20 May 2009 (UTC)