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New RSS Feeds

I added created new RSS feeds on for the main page's latest news and homebrew releases since the other ones seemed to be broken. These work fine.

For the Latest Homebrew I used:

     Global Search Pattern:
  <span class="mw-headline">Latest Homebrew Releases
  <td class="MainPageBG"
     Item (repeatable) Search Pattern:
  <li> <b>{%}</b>: {%}</li>

and for the Latest News I used:

      Global Search Pattern:
  <span class="mw-headline">Latest News
  <a name="Latest_Homebrew_Releases"

and the same item search pattern.


Thanks for the feed (Latest Homebrew). But would it be possible to show the entire line (especially the name and version of new application) as title of the feed? And the links are broken as well (e.g. Would be nice if those would point to either statically the WiiBrew:Homebrew Releases page or to the individual pages for each application. - to.rben 10:32, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

New page design

Please leave all comments on the new page design here. --Blooper (Talk) 03:09, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I like this layout much better. It looks more organized. I also re-did the RSS feeds to match the new layout and added more functionality to them. --Shadow1643 18:06, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Could someone help reword the welcome section? It needs some work and I'm not very good at it. --Blooper (Talk) 20:48, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Update banner

I have created a banner for the main page that warns against updating. Feel free to edit it to add relevant links and reword it. --Blooper (Talk) 20:50, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

The warning was removed from the main page. Although there's an HBC update, marcan's entry on states that "even with beta9, I don’t recommend that you update unless you need to. You can use Muzer’s or tona’s installer to install IOS51 and the new Wii Shop only, which will keep all the old vulnerable IOSes too." Is removing it a sign that Wiibrew no longer suggests that you don't update, or is it just impractical to leave the message there forever? I don't really have a preference, I just felt like it might warrant some discussion. AerialX 02:37, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't think it should be removed yet, but instead updated to point to the IOS51/Wii Shop patch, which I have done. --Blooper (Talk) 04:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

The New Notice

I think you should reword the part that says "Almost everything they sell is freely and legally available here". That "almost everything" implies that there is something in that package that is unique, and may intrigue people to buy it for that content not included in the "almost everything". Now, I know that the content included in that package is a backup launcher/whatever you need to use it, and I know we dont endorse it, but we could probably word it in a way that implies that there are things in the package that isnt on this site, but that those things are illegal. Something like "Almost everything they sell is freely and legally available here, and the rest are illegal applications and content that goes against international copyright laws". Also, there should be a link to the blog post for further info. oops_ur_dead 23:27, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

A simpler way to phrase this could be by replacing "Almost everything" with "All legitimate applications and content". This gets the point across in just a few words, and casts anything added by the scammers into a more negative light by implying that it not only could be illegal, but also bad or malicious in some other way. Just my idea, hope it helps. :) --PunMaster 04:57, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Why do we have ads?

My Question is: Why do we have ads on resources box? --WiiCracker 16:48, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

All I see is a tiny "pinched" down empty box under the word "resources". I disabled my ad blocker to check, but it might not be actually off like it claims to be. Anyway, can you describe what you're seeing there? If they really are advertisements there then they shouldn't be called something else. If there are just a bunch of useful links to pages totally not selling stuff, then I don't think that really counts as advertising. -Flark 02:36, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
To quote Arikado, "The people hosting wiibrew and the forums are doing it for free despite getting more than one gigabyte of bandwidth everyday. The advertisements are there to make money, and the questionable ones are intendedly there. Be certain though, that it is being looked into for a solution." --Bg4545 02:58, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Simplify and Clarify



Preparing for Homebrew Downloading Homebrew Developing Homebrew
Follow this homebrew setup tutorial to install the Homebrew Channel on your Nintendo Wii. Browse the Homebrew directory, or use the Homebrew Browser, which allows you to install directly from your Wii over Wi-Fi. Start Developing Homebrew on the Nintendo Wii by downloading DevkitPro and following this tutorial to set it up.

I strongly feel that a more simple banner with three 'actions' from which to choose should either replace or compliment the current 'Welcome!' banner. These three 'actions' would be: "Set up your Wii for Homebrew", "Download Homebrew Apps" and "Contribute". --Pinecone 23:37, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. The only issue I would have with those 'actions' is the use of the word "Contribute", as that generally refers to editing on wikis. I have added a box above we can use to mock up the new design. --Blooper (Talk) 03:17, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I've made a few changes to the box. I've chosen three 'action' words. Change the words if you have better ones, but they should remain "action" words as Pinecone suggests. --Tantric 03:34, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that looks great. I've changed the headers into links, also, to make it even easier to quickly pick out relevant pages.
P.S: Where it says 'Welcome!', there is a lot of space that could be put to better use. Perhaps a brief explanation like: "Welcome to, official Wiki of the Homebrew scene for the Nintendo Wii" with relevant wikipedia links? --Pinecone 22:56, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I like what the text already says, no reason to make it more wordy. The only thing we could maybe do is left align the contents of that bar, and add something (eg: links) to the right hand side. See here for an example. It also would be nice to make the text Wiibrew in Welcome to Wiibrew a link, perhaps to WiiBrew:About? --Tantric 23:29, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Actually, you're probably referring to the text Wecome which is the header of this box. We could scrap that entirely, and make these 3 separate "Main page box" boxes. --Tantric 23:29, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't think we should do that because it will cause too much box clutter. Each box on the main page should be limited to a specific purpose. The three sections in the welcome box all fall under the purpose of directing people to different pages on the wiki depending what they want to do.
As a side note, let's keep this discussion properly indented, because it makes the discussion much easier to read. Respond with one more indent than the comment you are replying to. When it gets too indented, outdent your response and make a note of it. --Blooper (Talk) 01:37, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Done Done Since there has been no further discussion about this, I have implemented it on the Main Page. --Blooper (Talk) 19:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Linking the headers

I am opposed to linking of the headers for multiple reasons.

  1. They are redundant with the links already in the content area of the box.
  2. The links don't have any information about where they are linked to. A person that reads "Downloading homebrew" may think that it is a guide for newbies about how to download a file and not click it. The link in the content area has more context because of its use in a sentence.
  3. Aesthetically, a blue link on a light blue background doesn't stand out as much as black on light blue. It's easier for the eye to just skip over the blue links completely.

Anyways, that's just my opinion. Feel free to object. --Blooper (Talk) 01:58, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you. Your reasoning makes sense to me. --Tantric 07:25, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
From a practical standpoint, I would disagree. I go onto often with a strong purpose in mind. There should be clear links at the top of the pages without having to read through text to find inline linking. --Pinecone 16:37, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Pinecone: Yes, that is a valid point. We should try to make the "action" of the section stand out as much as possible. The text could be rewritten so the section's "action" is within the first few words and bolded, similar to how Wikipedia (and many pages here) put the name of the article in bold at the beginning first sentence. (Example from Wii: "The Wii is a home video game console released by Nintendo.") --Blooper (Talk) 21:36, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
OK - I've changed the wording. Thoughts? --Pinecone 22:01, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
I've put my thoughts in by changing your wording some more. Your changes to the first line of the "Preparing" box made it way too much like the second line, so I've removed the first entirely. I understand your rationale for doing so, however, as the box is now named "Preparing for Homebrew", not "What is Homebrew?". Also, perhaps if someone's already on wiibrew they know what Homebrew is. But perhaps we could put the homebrew definition as the second line? Or something else, to make the 3 boxes symmetrical. --Tantric 18:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
On second thought, I've pared down the boxes to the essentials. --Tantric 18:40, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to Wiibrew Header

There's a big directory of links at the bottom, but not just some simple main links. What we could do is not link the headers, but add separate links just like Wikipedia does for an example - move the centred "Welcome to Wiibrew" to the left, and add a very limited number of main links to the right-hand side. --Tantric 16:52, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Changes to the "Welcome" box may or may not make this idea moot. --Tantric 18:40, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Wiibrew Warnings

Just a suggestion but I think that the red warning bar should be made into a general warning to people and have it link to a page with a list of things to look out for such as HomebreWare, system updates, etc. that is organized into its own category. Pinball wizard 03:14, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Moving banner to sitewide announcement?

I was thinking the banner would be better suited as a (possibly hideable/anonymous viewers only) sitewide announcement, similar to Wikiversity's "Why create a Wikiversity account?" line at the top of the page. If it was moved there, it should be worded along the lines of "Wiibrew strongly recommends that you do not update your Wii through Nintendo. (Learn more)". It would allow the removal of the obnoxious banner on the front page, which I originally created thinking it would only be a temporary thing. --Blooper (Talk) 03:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

It looks a bit out of place, don't you think? The danger of removing the banner now is that people may see it as an indication that updating is now safe --Pinecone 21:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Google Adverts

I am against your inclusion of Google adverts. Now the sidebar and search option are full of "Wii Homebrew" advertisements! You CANNOT warn against paying for homebrew and then have google adverts on the site. These homebrew scams will keep popping up. Here is one that came up on the search page when I did a search today:

Surely you see the hypocrisy of adverts? 0bvious 10:15, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it can be helped. AFAIK, the advert money is used to help run the site. The scammers have also been engaged in various tactics to increase their visibility such as bombing search results and adverts as well as some rather less than subtle stealth marketing on various sites. I think we just have to trust that people will see the warning and not fall for the ads related to scams. Flark 20:20, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Redirect to language translated homepage ?

Hello !
I'm French and my Firefox is configured in French and if I log in Wiibrew, Im' redirected to subpage in French when available and the homepage displayed is in French and totally out of date :(.
As I'm totally not interested in a "french wiibrew out of date" is it possible to not be redirected to french pages ? I want the original, not the bad copy :)
And have no time nor motivation to translate to french !
Thank you :) OuahOuah 11:15, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Change the language in your preferences to English. --Blooper (Talk) 19:12, 27 February 2009 (UTC)