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{{Trans|French|English}}This is a basic '''Channel FAQ''' for #wiidev on EFnet. If you ask a question that's answered here in the channel, do not expect a nice answer.
These are some currently popular questions in the #wiibrew channel. Remember to read [[Channel_FAQ]] before you jump in.
 
  
==General==
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If you:
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* Have a question but it is not answered here, please post it in the [[Talk:Channel_FAQ|discussion]] of this page.
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* Have a new question and answer or a different answer to a pre-existing question and think it would be interesting to others, please post it here!
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* Want to help out, check out how to [[Contributing|contribute]].
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* Want to join the Channel, read this page and be up to date '''at least''' read:[[Wiibrew FAQ]] and [[Homebrew status]], it will get you a warmer welcome on #wiidev.
  
===Are we using the SDK? Is there an SDK from Nintendo for Wii development? Is it leaked?===
 
Research devkitPro and libOGC - A number of people are working on a working legal opensource toolchain environment to compile Wii ELF homebrew.
 
  
devkitPPC should be updated soon with a template for wii projects. shagkur (I think) is working on the libwii library.
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== Specifying Purpose ==
  
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The point of #wiidev is to bring together people who have an interest in -- and ''an ability to'' -- help further Wii homebrew development.
  
===Will the Wii have homebrew apps just like the iPhone?===
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It is '''NOT''' for:
There's a chance that the Wii will have homebrew third-party apps. I can see the Wii having an image-editing program, third-party emulators, and DVD support, but we will have to wait and see.
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* Warez
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* Backups (even "legal" ones)
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* Modchips (information, help, etc)
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* Keys (key.bin, *.bin, NG-key-id, NG-priv, NG-sig, etc)
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* General console chit-chat (unreleased games, etc)
  
===Will a Wii System Update brick my hacked Wii?===
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Linking counts too. '''Go to #wiihack for these things.'''
Probably not. Everything we do is erased from memory when you turn off your Wii.  Future hacks might be more invasive, which will carry greater risk.
 
  
===What if the next Wii update patches the exploits?===
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== General Wordings ==
The only ways to "patch the exploits"  (currently only the Twilight Hack) would be to press new discs or have the system patch the game upon loading it.  The likelyhood of the former depends on whether or not they  intend to keep fixing bugs anyway -- this hack is probably not enough reason for them to restart production of the discs.  (That having been said, there are already two different NTSC/US versions of that game, so a third could be released.)
 
  
Patching the game while loading is unlikely for a number of boring reasonsIt's a lot of work with very little benefit -- until homebrew activities threaten Nintendo's revenue, don't expect them to expend serious effort to stop it.
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As things develop, the channel goes through ebbs and tides of activityDays go by without a single word, and sometimes we see 200+ people, all trying to talk at once.  In order to keep some order, we discourage discussion of the above topics.  While they may occasionally come up in conversation in relation to legitimate dev work, usually they are brought up by people when they first join the channel. If you do this, expect to be kicked and possibly banned.
  
==Wii Hacking==
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Newcomers are welcome, but please spend some time (at least an hour; better a day or a week) watching the subjects of conversation before joining, unless you're positive you have something novel to contribute. The mods are very quick to tempban if something is merely loosely related to the forbidden topics. They are also have no qualms about permabanning, even for minor infractions.
  
===What's happening now?===
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In this room just saying the wrong number could get your IP blacklisted. There are many other places to talk on EFnet, namely #wiihack. If it isn't allowed, take it to #wiihack. Think before pressing enter.
A lot of people are working on fancy Wii homebrew. Lots of work remains to be done.
 
  
For example:
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=== English ===
* Building a working toolchain environment
 
* Making a working low-level library to access hardware (CPU/GPU/controllers/USB/Framebuffers and debugging)
 
* Documenting memory maps,
 
* Discovering usage of registers for (Audio Interface, Serial Interface, Memory Interface, Video Interface),
 
* Triggering and setting up interrupt handling
 
* Working on a stable Initial Program Loader
 
* Reverse engineering [[IOS]] and other binary files.
 
  
===What does 'Soon: FAT' on #wiidev mean?===
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If you have something to say in the channel, say it in English. If you want to talk to someone in moon speak, do it in a private message or another channel. As a channel for general discussion related to wiidev everyone benefits from using the same language.
The next release of [[Twilight Hack]] will probably have fat support. and it will be done when it's done (give it a week, two weeks or even a month).
 
FAT support has nothing to do with front SD.
 
  
===The fish disc looks really promising===
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=== Posting links ===
The disc is able to transfer the bare essentials (savegames, preferences) of one Wii to another. It also allows all personal data to be erased, much like the "Format System Memory" option.
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Don't post every funny and extremely offtopic link to a picture or video you happen to see on the internet, think how your link contributes to the discussion before posting it.
  
===Is the ELF loader ready yet?/Is the Zelda Exploit able to boot homebrew?===
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== FAQ ==
Yes, see [[Twilight Hack]]
 
  
===What new features are you planning for the next release?===
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The point of the FAQ is so people can refer to it to get the latest info so people don't have to keep asking. Something must be asked at least a few times before being put into any part of the FAQ. Since things move so quickly, there tend to be questions that are repeatedly asked within a short amount of time, but won't be asked after some other event happens; This is what Questions of the Moment is for. Questions that are asked about generally recognized core parts of the project and will be around for a long time are in the Main FAQ.
Of course some *specific* things are planned already, but it's useless to talk about it. Plans change.  Commonly requested features include FAT support and "front SD slot" support.
 
  
===How did this happen?===
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=== Technical FAQ ===
The "tweezer" attack was originally used to access the restricted parts of the RAM. This allowed them to access/discover a exploit (as used in the original video)
 
  
This exploit can be patched "easily" by Nintendo so they have decided not to publicly release it but used that knowledge to discover another way to access the hardware.
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'''Now can we dump the keys without a hardware hack?''' <br />
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No, not that we know of.  Please find a way, kthx
  
There are a lot of keys, encryption methods, protection and systems in place.. Most of these are not public.
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'''Can we brute-force <...>'''<br />
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No
  
===Can i use the Wiimote?===
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=== Main FAQ ===
No, we are working on it but a lot has to be implemented to make this work, the GC-controller is the only controller supported as of right now.
 
  
===When will I be able to use the Wii's built-in front loading SD slot?===
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'''Hi, I can't code/reverse engineer/test but I would like to help , what can I do?'''<br />
Please stop asking.  Currently we are prevented from this by lack of experience with that interface, but it is at least possible.
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You can hang around if you want, but please stop asking the same questions over and over again. See [[Channel_FAQ#.2AReally.2A_want_to_help_but_can.27t_code.3F|below]].
  
==Twilight Hack==
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'''"Hey, I have this really great idea ... what if you try just <.....>"'''<br />
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Been there, done that.  Go away.
  
===How does it work?===
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'''Ooooo look I have a cool Wiimote/Glovepie script/tool/program'''<br />
An exploit has been found in the Wii game "The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess". Once used it launches custom code. It is similar to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto:_Liberty_City_Stories#PSP_exploit GTA PSP Exploit].
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Go to #wiihack. Yes, we know there are many nifty things you can do with the input it provides, but unless you can make it provide MORE input, do not mention it on #wiidev.
  
===How do I use it?===
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'''Is it hacked yet?''' / '''Does homebrew run yet?'''<br />
The [[Twilight Hack]] WiiBrew Wiki page has everything you need to know on how to use the Zelda Exploit.
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Yes, look at the [[Homebrew status]] for more info
  
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'''Can we run backups / pirate games yet?'''<br />
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Get lost, or go to #wiihack. We do not deal with illegal copying of games.
  
=== Is the Twilight Hack affected by update 3.2?===
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'''Where can I get these NG-key things?'''<br />
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Not from any of us. You shouldn't need them anyway.
  
No, Wii System Update 3.2 does not appear to affect on the [[Twilight Hack]].
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'''How can I do ...... on Wii?'''<br />
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Read the manual, or search the net. This channel is meant to be used to discuss Wii development and reverse engineering, not '''everything''' relating to the Wii.
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'''How can [[WiiLi]] be so far already?'''<br />
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They are not. Wiili doesn't have a distro, doesn't know how to run homebrew, and they basically just have a good-looking site. There is no proof we can run anything from a DVD with no modchip or other hack, and in fact this may very well be completely impossible (or not, but no one knows). Most if not all of the work is being done by people on #wiidev at EFNet or Blitzed. Nothing has come out of Wiili pertaining to the actual Wii hardware.
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[http://www.brakken.net/comments.php?mid=42e180dc22cb2e5f7bb66ce29 Here is a very enlightening article on WiiLi]
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== *Really* want to help? Become an Editor! ==
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Help is always needed here on the wiki!
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Check out [[Contributing#Become_a_Wiki_Editor|how to contribute]].

Revision as of 14:58, 7 March 2008

This is a basic Channel FAQ for #wiidev on EFnet. If you ask a question that's answered here in the channel, do not expect a nice answer.

If you:

  • Have a question but it is not answered here, please post it in the discussion of this page.
  • Have a new question and answer or a different answer to a pre-existing question and think it would be interesting to others, please post it here!
  • Want to help out, check out how to contribute.
  • Want to join the Channel, read this page and be up to date at least read:Wiibrew FAQ and Homebrew status, it will get you a warmer welcome on #wiidev.


Specifying Purpose

The point of #wiidev is to bring together people who have an interest in -- and an ability to -- help further Wii homebrew development.

It is NOT for:

  • Warez
  • Backups (even "legal" ones)
  • Modchips (information, help, etc)
  • Keys (key.bin, *.bin, NG-key-id, NG-priv, NG-sig, etc)
  • General console chit-chat (unreleased games, etc)

Linking counts too. Go to #wiihack for these things.

General Wordings

As things develop, the channel goes through ebbs and tides of activity. Days go by without a single word, and sometimes we see 200+ people, all trying to talk at once. In order to keep some order, we discourage discussion of the above topics. While they may occasionally come up in conversation in relation to legitimate dev work, usually they are brought up by people when they first join the channel. If you do this, expect to be kicked and possibly banned.

Newcomers are welcome, but please spend some time (at least an hour; better a day or a week) watching the subjects of conversation before joining, unless you're positive you have something novel to contribute. The mods are very quick to tempban if something is merely loosely related to the forbidden topics. They are also have no qualms about permabanning, even for minor infractions.

In this room just saying the wrong number could get your IP blacklisted. There are many other places to talk on EFnet, namely #wiihack. If it isn't allowed, take it to #wiihack. Think before pressing enter.

English

If you have something to say in the channel, say it in English. If you want to talk to someone in moon speak, do it in a private message or another channel. As a channel for general discussion related to wiidev everyone benefits from using the same language.

Posting links

Don't post every funny and extremely offtopic link to a picture or video you happen to see on the internet, think how your link contributes to the discussion before posting it.

FAQ

The point of the FAQ is so people can refer to it to get the latest info so people don't have to keep asking. Something must be asked at least a few times before being put into any part of the FAQ. Since things move so quickly, there tend to be questions that are repeatedly asked within a short amount of time, but won't be asked after some other event happens; This is what Questions of the Moment is for. Questions that are asked about generally recognized core parts of the project and will be around for a long time are in the Main FAQ.

Technical FAQ

Now can we dump the keys without a hardware hack?
No, not that we know of. Please find a way, kthx

Can we brute-force <...>
No

Main FAQ

Hi, I can't code/reverse engineer/test but I would like to help , what can I do?
You can hang around if you want, but please stop asking the same questions over and over again. See below.

"Hey, I have this really great idea ... what if you try just <.....>"
Been there, done that. Go away.

Ooooo look I have a cool Wiimote/Glovepie script/tool/program
Go to #wiihack. Yes, we know there are many nifty things you can do with the input it provides, but unless you can make it provide MORE input, do not mention it on #wiidev.

Is it hacked yet? / Does homebrew run yet?
Yes, look at the Homebrew status for more info

Can we run backups / pirate games yet?
Get lost, or go to #wiihack. We do not deal with illegal copying of games.

Where can I get these NG-key things?
Not from any of us. You shouldn't need them anyway.

How can I do ...... on Wii?
Read the manual, or search the net. This channel is meant to be used to discuss Wii development and reverse engineering, not everything relating to the Wii.

How can WiiLi be so far already?
They are not. Wiili doesn't have a distro, doesn't know how to run homebrew, and they basically just have a good-looking site. There is no proof we can run anything from a DVD with no modchip or other hack, and in fact this may very well be completely impossible (or not, but no one knows). Most if not all of the work is being done by people on #wiidev at EFNet or Blitzed. Nothing has come out of Wiili pertaining to the actual Wii hardware.

Here is a very enlightening article on WiiLi

*Really* want to help? Become an Editor!

Help is always needed here on the wiki!

Check out how to contribute.