Talk:Homebrew Browser/Archive 1

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v0.3 Development

HBB needs a new interface. http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1483/hbbv030prototypejx9.jpg. Any suggestions or comments? --Teknecal 14:16, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

That looks pretty cool :) --Mjbauer95 19:01, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I've made a new design with a bigger text size. You can see it here: http://www.gm-alex.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/homebrewbrowser.jpg I hope you like it and Teknecal will use it. GM_Alex

About page: http://www.codemii.com/hbbv03_about_test.dol. Are there any suggests or comments anyone has about this? --Teknecal 12:46, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

I think thats good, but I guess you want to move the Download/Delete buttons into the About window - which would require two clicks to install/delete an app. Perhaps it would be possible to select multiple checkboxes in the Main Screen, and then press a Download (or Delete) button that appears below the list ? (Have a look at this mockup - this would download ftpii, wiidoom and scogger) --Alanceil 18:43, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Are you still looking for designs? I am working on a flash file as a suggestion for you. You can decide wether you like it or not or even if you want to look at it. Pinball wizard 01:27, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Not really looking at the moment but it's always welcome, maybe you'll come up a design that may improve the functionality. --Teknecal 00:52, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

How about making it so we can put in our own background music and make a default background music if we dont want to put in our own. -- Gamewizard71 01:21, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

How about custom templates and a default design if we dont want to change its design. -- Gamewizard71 01:22, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

A ROM column. -- Gamewizard71 01:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

ROM downloads are not exactly legal... So no. --Bg4545 09:23, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

v0.3 Suggestions

I don't know if this is possible or not, but a search feature would really help me because my internet is a bit slow so the constant downloading the next page of apps takes a while for me to find what I want. Great program and thanks for the hard work! -Peachrules 05:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I think what would really help v0.3 is if you hover over one of the buttons, but not the apps (ex. thumbs up, star, trash can, question mark icons) is that a little blip would pop-up and tell you what this button is for. (In other words a little speech bubble) -- Gamewizard71 22:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes I see, just like v0.2.5b does. --Teknecal 08:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Ever considered using a repository based system, ala Debian/Ubuntu, so users and devs could maintain their own repositories of apps? I understand that this opens up the possibility of someone putting up a bad app that could cause a brick but you could only have your repository, and other trusted, enabled by default making adding others an advanced feature via editing a text file. - -Puck 03:13, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Background Music

Help out by finding and linking us to any calm music loops so we can decide which one to use.

Loop_01 Loop_02 Loop_03 Loop_04

Robert Rich: Past Glances Parallel Horizons Felix 13:58, 4 July 2008 (CEST)

Definitely 'Loop 3'! Quixada 03:31, 7 July 2008 (CEST)

I agree on loop 3 IF teknecal does this feature. It sounds the most wii-oriented. Pinball wizard 16:44, 11 July 2008 (CEST)

Loop 1: Too much beat for BG music. Loop 2: Sounds a little too old school for Wii. Loop 3: I'd have to agree that this is probably best... Loop 4: ...But this one is fine too.--PCDude2143 23:40, 13 July 2008 (CEST)

I'd like to put in the background music but am not great with threads. I've tried but can't get the mp3 to keep playing in the HBB. If anyone has a threading example which can loop an mp3 and do other things like draw graphics/display pictures, etc, please post a link to it here. --Teknecal 16:44, 19 July 2008 (CEST)

I found 3 more loops for backgound music that I think would sound good on the HBB. What do you think?

BBT Loop 1 BBT Loop 2 BBT Loop 3

--Big Bang Theory 23:46 31 July 2008 (CEST)

From the First 4, my favorite is loop 3, I also liked all of Big Band Theory's, the second one kind of sounds like the temple of time, For the 3rd one I can't recall which game but I'm sure there is something similar to it in Mario Galaxy or 64 I think. --DrMario 01:08, 2 August 2008 (CEST)
Out of the first loops, 3 or 4 but personally I prefer BBT Loop 1... It's catchier :) --Neversoft 20:21, 6 August 2008 (CEST)

I have some of that calm music that you wanted for the Homebrew Browser. it's the music that is played when you run Windows XP for the first time- if you have Windows XP, you can find it at this directory: C:\Windows\system32\oobe\images\title.wma. I hope it suits you well. --yoshicircuit 20:49, 11 August 2008 (CEST) (i like that tune, i use it while an installation of apps i create Adamdmasi 09:51, 8 November 2008 (UTC))

loop 3 is cool Adamdmasi 09:51, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Loop3 and BBT Loop 3 are both the ones I'd go with. --ANinyMouse 06:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

SDHC

One of the biggest annoyances for me when downloading a new homebrew app is not knowing if it is sdhc compatable or not. Even just add a * at the end of the description or something would be very useful.

This ready in HBB v0.3. Am I right in saying that applications that were made before SDHC was implemented that don't have any files or load or save files to the SD card are still SDHC compatible as all that's used is the dol/elf file? --Teknecal 11:43, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
If they're self contained like you say, then yes. --Tantric 14:09, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Better info storing

Right now the way info on files are stored is through images. This seems like the server would waste a lot of time just sending the headers and stuff so instead if it just sent text containing all the stuff it would probably speed stuff up. I know you probably did this because it seemed simple but if you could just add think about this it would be great :) --Mjbauer95 03:07, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, this would be on of the things that's planned for v0.3.x release. When it will be out I'm not sure as I haven't had a chance to begin the coding. --Teknecal 05:28, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Just Install

A few apps like DVDx just require you to run them once- would it be possible to distinguish these from "real apps". I don't know if it's possible to run an app in an app but if it is I think this could be a good feature. --Mjbauer95 03:07, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Text Size Etc.

I love this app! I don't know what I would do without it. However, I don't have a very big TV and also have poor eyesight. Is it possible to make the text in the browser a little bit bigger? Thanks. Quixada1

Screen space is at a premium. Consider getting rid of the bar beneath each app box (w/ the buttons), and just having the pictures. Then when you click on an app picture, it overlays a window (like the one for controls & info) that lets you see info, download, etc. Then you could make the category toolbar larger. I have a 130" screen and I still find the fonts a little small! --Tantric 08:20, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

About section for each app

I was thinking about doing an about pop up for each application but doing that might take too long as it would have to been done for each application... unless people would like to help out? Might need to remove the applications picture so a better description can be added. http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1771/winaboutci7.png What are people's thoughts on this? --Teknecal 14:03, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Keep the current pictures, but when the user clicks on the about button for an application it would be cool if it had the same function as when you click on a program in the Homebrew Channel where a window pops up over the screen and has all the program information, but you could replace it with whatever stats you want. That is how I foresee it working. --Spnorth 14:42, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Still working on this or need more suggestions on implementation? --Spnorth 15:37, 4 November 2008
Haven't worked on it, don't have much time as other things on the HBB came up. --Teknecal 02:44, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Stats

Awesome App! But i think maybe you should add some stats (most downloaded) to get some competition going in Homebrew Development :)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjbauer95 (talkcontribs) 07:37, 30 June 2008 (CEST)

Statistics sound good. Where should these statistics be available? Should it be in HBB or just on a webpage? --Teknecal 18:52, 3 July 2008 (CEST)
I was thinking more in the HB --Mjbauer95 21:22, 3 July 2008 (CEST)

Current Stats of HBB downloads

Ratings

It would be a great feature to be able to rate the homebrew games. I don't know if would work without too much work, but I had some ideas: You can only rate downloaded games and you can change your rating whenever you want. Of course, you would be able to sort by rating. I know, it would be much work and it seems pretty useless, but I think there are already (or soon) over 100 homebrew games online and you don't know what you should download when you first launch Homebrew Browser. Sorry for my broken English... :/ --Elgamblo 18:57, 18 July 2008 (CEST)

Ratings -> could work, with the help of a server side programming language. Changing your rating... ummm... that is going to be quite difficult, since IPs change, and so on. Short of finding an unique individual Wii ID, that is... --Lukegb 16:15, 21 July 2008 (CEST)
Yes, but it should be possible to get the Serial Number. When I buy something in Wii Shop Channel with the Credit Card, it shows the Serial Number. --Elgamblo 16:18, 21 July 2008 (CEST)
OK - calling ES_GetDeviceID() should get a Wii-unique device code. --Lukegb 17:58, 25 July 2008 (CEST)

Peripheral Images

Maybe you could add the controls used by the application (wiimote/gamecube/etc.) just like on the wiibrew article sites?

Please explain this further. --Teknecal 10:56, 30 July 2008 (CEST)
OP wants homebrew apps/Peripheral info included inside HBB. Personally, I would like some notification if some non-standard hardware (balance board, GC controller, etc) is required to use the homebrew. Felix 13:21, 30 July 2008 (CEST)
Ah I see, good idea. I'll put it in the next HBB release. --Teknecal 13:43, 30 July 2008 (CEST)
I couldn't put it in because there was too many little icons to fit in the "channel". Maybe when I use a bigger about window it could be added there. --Teknecal 01:56, 13 August 2008 (CEST)

Great, thanks! That was exactly what I meant! --DigDug 14:43, 30 July 2008 (CEST)

Background Downloading

Right now the downloads are fairly slow. I don't know if this is a limitation of the Wii or of your servers, but either way it would be nice if you could still browse the homebrew and queue things for download while something is downloading. If things were queued it would be nice if there was a separate download section.

It would be nice if we could keep on browsing while it is downloading. Felix 10:09, 30 June 2008 (CEST)

Info/Stats Bar for SD Card

First off, GREAT WORK! If I may suggest, would it be possible to put in some form of info/stats bar illustrating sd card disk (free) space vs data used..etc. Maybe similar to Wii menu > save data management screen (Blocks used/free) Thanks! --ramie 07:52, 10 July 2008 (CEST)

Just a number showing free space is good enough for me. Felix 12:13, 10 July 2008 (CEST)
Free space is now displayed on the bottom right of the screen. --Teknecal

HB Titles - Please Delete Old Emulators

It seems like in the emulator categories all of the pictures all just say "NES Emulator" and the details don't help distinguish them apart (Just says, "NES Emulator" for most.") -- I installed FCE Ultra GX manually (the one linked here on wiibrew.org) but it didn't set off the installed mark on any of the ones in the browser: why are there like 10 versions of an NES emulator in this browser, anyway?

Same thing goes for the SNES emulators: we need a way to tell the versions apart! Nago 05:04, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

The way to tell them apart is to look at the image and you'll see the authors name on it. --Teknecal 09:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Even so, is there a way to expand the "details" so we can see a readme or something for each port to help us discern the different versions? "SNES Emulator" is kind of evident by the logo and the category it is in alone. Any chance of more details here? Nago 18:10, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
I second that, it is very confusing to know which one to use and even to know which ones are even supported anymore. Maybe just a more detailed description on each variant of snes9x. I'm not savvy with snes9x variants, so I have no idea which one would suit my needs. (See this link for a brief discussion about this.) Quixada1
FCEU and Snes unofficial emulators have been removed. --Teknecal 05:56, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Loading GUI First

Why don't load the GUI first, and them tell the user that is loading the network, them looking for an update and downloading the list. The idea will be not to show that ugly command text at startup. A little bit similar to the Homebrew channel, whe it shows an icon when loading the network device and reading the SD card. --EvilMind 13 July 2008.

I kinda like having the terminal pop up to show what it's doing. It also helps users to debug what may be going wrong such as when Teknecal forgot to upload an image. I'm sure it would have gotten fixed but it just brought the problem to our attention so much faster. --NatenNator 18 July 2008

GUI - but if there's an error (i.e. like Linux with its bootsplash) bring up the terminal and display. Alternatively, you could check for a file in the folder where the HBB is stored (say ilikemyterminal) and if so, then leave it at terminal. But that needs lots of effort (I think) and I want ZIP support first! :P --Lukegb 10:27, 23 July 2008 (CEST)

New Image Download Behavior

The old style suited me better. I have a slow internet connection, so downloading the images takes a bit of time. I would prefer all the images to be loaded at the start, so my homebrew-browsing experience is not interrupted by waiting for images to load. Maybe add it back as an option? Or make the images download in the backgorund. Felix 12:24, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I also do not like this new behavior. It takes much too long to change pages, even when the page's icons are already loaded. --Blooper4912 03:52, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Same here, I think that the on-the-fly downloading is kind of out of place. I liked the downloading the images to a temp dir when the app first starts. --Niceguy1012 03:01, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
HBB now allows you to select in the settings if you want to download the images before HBB loads or on-demand. --Teknecal 05:56, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Color Blind - Different Icons for Installed/Update Available

Instead of having a blue or green (I think) check-mark for installed apps and apps with updates available, would it be possible to have different icons such as a check and a cross? This isn't a cosmetic niggle, I'm red/green colour blind (as are approx 1 in 10 men) and against the white background I find it almost impossible to tell if I have the latest version of an application at a glance. --Neversoft 19:23, 7 August 2008 (CEST)

When LowLines did the design he did have a cross to mark applications that don't have updates, but as the cross is universally recognized as "something is wrong", I asked him to just make the blue tick. Maybe instead of a blue tick, we should have a little down arrow like this: http://www.codemii.com/status_update_on.png? --Teknecal 11:06, 8 August 2008 (CEST)
I would read this page for design assistance in helping people that are color blind use HBB. --Spnorth 14:50, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
For "download and apply update" I was thinking of something more like an inverted capital G, an arrow pointing in a circle, like the "reload page" icon in Firefox 3. --Tepples 16:51, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Changed to a yellow tick now. --Teknecal 05:56, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Check Colors

This may be a simple thing to do or not so i am going to ask: Is it possible to have you make settings to make the checks for needs updating and up-to-date something like an X for out-of-date and a check for up-to-date? I haven't had time to update HBB yet to see it but being partly colorblind... Either way great job! Pinball wizard 22:19, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Update All Button

I would like to suggest a "Update All" button that allows updating all installed apps at once instead of having to select all update buttons separately. --delirium83 20:43, 23 July 2008 (CEST)

Or maybe just an Auto-Update at start feature --Mjbauer95 04:24, 26 July 2008 (CEST)
Update all button is now available in HBB v0.2.5. --Teknecal 05:56, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

A message from Low Lines

While designing graphics for teknecal's Homebrew Browser, I have been using a Flash-Based Demo to simulate it (makes it easier to design) and work on possible future features that may be added when teknecal feels ready. Discussion about this can be found here. I am open to ideas and suggestions, and this also provides everyone with a usable demonstration of the Browser.

Website 403 issues

Why is the entire hackmii site returning 403 errors as of Oct 4? NonaSuomi 07:19, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

the website for hbb is codemii.com not hackmii. and codemii had issues cuz it was in transit to a different server (?) This has been resolved --Yossi 10:31, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Regarding Savegame Manager Alpha(3):

The "updated" version and my original version were the same, just compiled by 2 different people. So really it's not an update, just an alternate version. You may keep it as is, but I just thought I'd point it out. I had no idea it was being released on GBATemp. --bg4545 03:10, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

=== Load the app list (also) from another server  ===

I think it would be awesome to make it possible to have the option to load the app list (also) from another server--balta 19:02, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Done with using other repos. --Teknecal 01:14, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

A Intellivision Emu

Okay so I look around, and you have no Intellivision emulator. Is there one gonna be made or what? You guys made a Colecovision Emulator, but no Intellivision emu? What gives?? --RPD490 19:35, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

No-one has to make or give anything for you, if you want a Intellivision emulator, make one yourself. LoganA (talkcontribs) 20:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

HBB Downloadable things listing

Well - I did a pretty listing here of everything. After the page has loaded completely, you should be able to hover over an image to see its download statistic. Enjoy. Comment. --Lukegb 12:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Cool. I got a broken image for the hover statistic though. Suggestions: add a link back to this page. The index page needs some graphics. Felix 13:17, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

OKAY EVERYONE! I have now: updated file to newest version, updated parsing engine to match, linked each image to the ZIP containing it's program. ;) --Lukegb 14:32, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Implementing Into WiiManage

I am currently making a mac application that will set up and manage your entire SD card. It needs some way to go to the web and gather the files for download that people want. Is it possible we could collaborate on something to work with your system? Pinball wizard 01:32, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

What kind of collaboration are you looking for? You are probably looking for some sort kind of a http library for C. I can help you out if you need help with how the HBB system works, the application listing file and directory structure, etc. Keep in mind that I don't have a mac. You can contact me on teknecal@gmail.com or at #wiidev on EFnet. --Teknecal 11:06, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
You have a great system setup for HBB and I know that you have this all setup somewhere with all the images, files, and .xml things that the HBB goes to and grabs. I know I can implement into my application more or less anything HTTP. I want it to help you(the end user who is clueless) update everything, but on the computer side. I don't know if your a forum member on either forum but I just more or less need your file hosting. Pinball wizard 14:11, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I am a member of the Wiibrew Forums. The listing file is found at http://www.codemii.com/homebrew/listv021.txt which lists the application name, timestamp, image file size, dol/elf file size, is it a dol or elf, total directory size, folders to create, files to copy, any files to delete. In http://www.codemii.com/homebrew/, you will see the directory structure. The images files are in this directory as well as the folders for the applications. In each directory are the boot.dol/elf, icon.png, meta.xml and any additional files. --Teknecal 10:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
So you don't mind me implementing it into WiiManage? Either way thank you. Pinball wizard 14:22, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah I don't mind, go ahead. --Teknecal 09:23, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Archived Issues

Popular category is never updated

Is this popular category view ever updated. I never see it change. If i check the HBB download statistics i see a complet different overview. I think there is some where a bug. Small change request: It how be nice it the download count would be display on screen for each item. --wplaat 11:14, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this up, it was supposed to update every day but it didn't. I have now changed and tested it to update every hour. --Teknecal 02:44, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks --wplaat 12:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

File dates

I noticed when HBB writes to the SD, the files and folders doesn't have date, the field it's blank. I don't know if this is a problem with a library or the program itself. For the record, I'm using a FAT formated SD card. --Janus 17:54, 2 August 2008 (CEST)

Same. FAT32. 2G SD Card CarstenK 05:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Same, Fat16 2GB Sandisk SD --DrMario 14:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

HBB Crashes While Downloading FCEU GX Icon SOLVED

Every time the Browser needs to access the FCEU GX icon (whether on startup if I have it set to download all the icons at once, or when I try to access the page it's on if I have it set to download icons on demand), it informs me of a network issue several times in a row, and then returns to HBC. Pyleic 17:09, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I have had problems similar to yours. What fixed mine was to delete the contents of the /tmp folder on the SD card. --Mjbauer95 00:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Should be fixed now. --Teknecal 08:57, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

HBB Freezes on Download/Update SOLVED

For some reason, anytime I click on update or download, HBB freezes after the download is completed. It hangs at the 100% extracted point. The only solution is to do a hard reset, but that reveals that the application is downloaded and installed properly.

I am running 3.4U HBC 1.0.1. -- Kooseefoo 07:39, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Maybe not enough free space to extract? -- .Hyper//Hacker 18:01, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I have this exactly same problem. 3.2U, HCB 1.0.1, HBB 0.2.5c. I love the idea behind this channel, but it's not worth using to have to hard reset each time I install something. It does install successfully. It just freezes when done. -- GamingMedley.com 22:10, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Can you try HBB v0.3 Rev10 and see if you have this issue(available in the Demos section of HBB)? -- Teknecal 01:36, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I'd been meaning to mention this for a while. The Rev10 update fixes this problem. ^_^ -- GamingMedley.com 01:17, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

SD Write Protected Crash SOLVED

I recently set up Homebrew on my parents' Wii and they have a MicroSD card in a regular sized SD Adapter. Well, the Write-Protect switch likes to get moved into the locked position when I insert the card into the Wii. Turns out that if the SD card is locked, HBB will crash (code dump) during an update or crash (some error code) on the main screen. Can't it fail elegantly and say "could not write to SD card" or something like that? Deozaan 02:52, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Never really tried that, but I'll try and see if there is a way to do this. --Teknecal 08:09, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Added check in HBB v0.3 which seems to work for me. --Teknecal 02:20, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

icon.png Updates SOLVED

Does the "Update" application button also update the application's icon.png? My Little Ball recently got a graphics overhaul, which was reflected in the HBB with a new icon.png and a new version to download, but, once downloaded, the local icon.png didn't change. Has anyone else encountered this? -- MetaFight 17:20, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

That is correct, your icon file won't be updated. I will add a function to turn this off or on in HBB v0.3 --Teknecal 07:35, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I assume this is because you don't want it replacing an icon the user has put there in place of the original? The easiest solution is to do a hash/checksum (MD5 or even CRC32 would do) of the file to be replaced, and if it doesn't match, don't replace it.
Added a option in HBB v0.3 which you can select if you wish to let HBB update the icon or not. --Teknecal 02:20, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Cursor Hotspot SOLVED

I noticed the other day that the cursor's hotspot doesn't rotate correctly with the cursor itself. For example, if I rotate the cursor 90deg CCW the hotspot will be slightly above the finger instead of on its tip. I figure this is just an issue with setting the hotspot's pivot point. -- MetaFight 19:14, 09 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I really go to get that sorted, anyone have some code which does so? --Teknecal 07:35, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Actually, I think I stated the problem incorrectly. The hotspot itself shouldn't move during a pure rotation. Instead, the cursor should simply rotate around the hotspot. I'm pretty sure this is how most apps handle it. So, for example, if the hotspot is (cursor.X + 5, cursor.Y + 5), the cursor should rotate around (5, 5). I don't know if I'm being clear. I'm pretty bad at explaining these things. -- MetaFight 18:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it does make sense. I think the easiest way would be to do as Squidman suggested to me, just double the image height and make the hotspot the middle, that way when rotated the hotspot will always be correct. --Teknecal 08:09, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Fixed using Squidman's suggestion in HBB v0.3. --Teknecal 02:20, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Not In Order SOLVED

The stuff listed in HBB are not in the order of date anymore. Just to let you know. I realized it when items from january were before february and such. Pinball wizard 00:18, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Your probably talking about Utilities? One item was just out of place and has been fixed. --Teknecal 11:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, at least I think that was it. I assumed that HBB downloaded all the data and sorted it all out for listing purposes within itself. Pinball wizard 01:26, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Failed Update Kills HBB SOLVED

Something is screwy with the HBB's server today and although the HBB found a new update, it failed upon trying to download it. So it deleted boot.elf but didn't update and replace it with a new one. I had to manually install the new version of HBB. I'd suggest some better error handling there ;) --AerialX 20:11, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

More error checking added. --Teknecal 14:08, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
The best way to prevent this kind of problem is to download everything with names like boot.elf.tmp, then once all files have been verified, delete the originals and rename the new ones. .Hyper//Hacker 18:05, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Yep, that's the way I did it. --Teknecal 02:20, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Crash during browsing SOLVED

Experienced crash while browing emulator category on 0.2.3b. Clicked back button during browsing. Stack trace: 80022f70 00000032 800043a4 8004a9a0 8004a93c --Tantric 08:14, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Let me know if you have any issues with v0.2.5b. --Teknecal 14:08, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Haven't had any issues like this for quite awhile, I'd consider this solved. --Tantric 21:48, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Can not initialize internet connection SOLVED

I am currently using a Wii with 3.2 firmware, and homebrew channel beta 8. I have installed and gotten plenty of apps to work fine, however I have never been able to get this application to work. It just says that it cant initialize with the network. Opera works fine, weather channel, wii connect 24, and the Homebrew channel had updated automatically when I installed beta 7. Is there are a port you would recommend opening up on my router to try and solve this issue. I have a feeling my routers firewall is blocking it. Its an actiontec wifi router that comes standard with verizon fios.

The Homebrew Browser uses HTTP on port 80 to get all of the data... So unless port 80 is blocked by your firewall, I don't think that's the issue. However, I have heard of other people having this same issue without resolution. Can I ask specifics about how your Network connection is set up on the Wii? As in, Wireless, Nintendo Wifi adapter, Wired... Static IP, Automatic, Proxy.... ? Any info would be helpful --ProdigySim 19:12, 22 July 2008 (CEST)

So i use the wii's built in wifi, with automatic configuration on a WEP key. I believe its 64 bit WEP, but it may be 128 bit. I can check when I get home. I will try disabling it though when I get home and see if that changes anything. --DaveyDucati 14:53, 22 July 2008 (EST)

So I resolved the problem by placing my wii in a DMZ in the routers settings. I also noticed that the homebrew channel doesn't connect to the internet unless the wii is in the DMZ as well. For some reason my firewall doesn't play nice with homebrew. I can try to email you a log of my firewall activity if you like. --DaveyDucati 20:16 22 July 2008 EST
It appears that after one successfuly connection, I could not log in again. I Switched to WPA on my wifi, and I did get it to work, but i dont know if thats just one time because it involved resetting my router. I will do more testing tonight. If the wii is in the DMZ though it cant be a firewall issue. I would keep it on WPA, but not all wifi devices in my house support it. --DaveyDucati 09:16 23 July 2008 EST
The other case I had heard of got resolved, and it was also a case of using automatic configuration (AOSS). He changed from that to a manual configuration and it began working. --ProdigySim 07:31, 24 July 2008 (CEST)

I now have my router set to no security, but to only allow certain MAC address, and the homebrew channel seems to work. --DaveyDucati 18:13, 24 July 2008 (CEST)

Have you tried to disable wiiconnect24 before starting HBB?

I'm having this same problem. (To post above, I just tried that, and it still doesn't work.) --Sin 09:47, 1 August 2008 (CEST)

I had the same problem using wireless and WEP, but it seemed that changing to a Static IP solved the problem. --tpw_rules 22:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Another thing to try is to disable WEP. I spoke to had a user who couldn't initialise the network and when they disabled the WEP security, it worked.

Greetings! The only way to fix the "Unable to initialise network, exiting" error for me, is using a non-encrypted connection or WEP.
WPA and WPA2 do not work. Can anyone confirm this? --SpyroDragon 02:36, 24 September 2008
WPA2-AES working fine here, Turning off WiiConnect24 fixed the "Unable to initialise network..." error for me. --Tarv 03:09, 17 November 2008 (CST)
It seems like 1/4 times I load the HBB it is 'unable to initialize'. is this normal? --Cyndaquil 02:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

On my Wii, I've only got it to work 5 out of around 40 tries. WEP, WPA (AES), or no encryption doesn't seem to really matter. Could a retry button be added to Homebrew Browser when the network fails to initialize, instead of immediately exiting? In the Homebrew Channel, if I repeatedly retry connection, it works about the 2nd or 3rd time. I'm using IOS36 with the latest (0.2.5) Homebrew Browser and and Homebrew Channel (1.0.1). --digitalcircuit36939 12:47, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

v0.2.5b now keeps retrying the network if it can't initialise it. --Teknecal 14:08, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Setting to closed as I haven't had any more reports after I added the network retrying, please reopen if there are any issues. --Teknecal 02:20, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Upgrade problem SOLVED

Hello Teknecal, When i'm tryning to update with network, it's impossible ton do it When i want to update from the version 0.2.4, a code dump bug appear THX

When you press A to update, is that when the code dump appears? Can you try downloading an application in HBB v0.2.4? --Teknecal 00:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
My HBB upgraded fine from 0.2.4 to 0.2.5, but when I started the updated version a code dump occurred. I used FTPii and deleted the settings file. It appeared to have been created wrong and had odd characters in its name. HBB works now and I was able to change the settings in it. --Spnorth 15:50 December 13, 2008
That's strange. I've updated HBB again to check if the file can be read when it's loading the settings.xml file so that should be fixed. --Teknecal 00:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I had the same problem, my file was called setting㦍. Thanks Spnorth for the solution. --Crayon 23:38, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I have this kind of problem, but my settings file is fine... Uploaded a video, but I don't think that it helps. (Quality sucks because of Youtube) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhlI_QFsYpA --Predator Mario 15:44, 15th December 2008 (GMT+2)
Can you try this: http://www.codemii.com/2008/12/13/hbb-updated-to-v025/#comment-673 --Teknecal 08:35, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Update problems SOLVED

When updating to the latest version of HBB, I get the dreaded "This is not a valid Wii aplication message" Is anyone else getting this? Toagac 18:16, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Can you check to see if you have the dol file? --Teknecal 00:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I have the same problem, I have the boot.dol file however it's quite smaler (15972 bytes) than original([1]) at 771200 bytes. Steinark 19:06, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
That's strange, I suppose I should add a file size check once the update has happened to check that it's the right size. --Teknecal 08:43, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
The problem might be that the memory card was out of freespace, it had 2.9Mb free. Now I'm using a larger one, and it's working fine :-). Steinark 19:40, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
You actually bring up a good point. I should add a check to HBB to make sure that there is enough size on the SD card to download the application. --Teknecal 08:46, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Checkmark Colors SOLVED

Is it possible to make them different shapes instead of the colors? Hate to bother you with such simple things but me being also partly colorblind cannot tell ANY difference in the checkmarks. Thanks. Pinball wizard 00:23, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Yossi suggested using a question mark ?, do you think that would work alright? --Teknecal 09:09, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Sure, Just more or less anything that involves different shapes for the too. Pinball wizard 02:43, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Added to HBB v0.3. --Teknecal 02:20, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Utilities not changing SOLVED

Hello, When I update the applications (14/03/09), I don't download the utilities.

This has been fixed. For some reason HBB doesn't like it when I add cheatmanager or even the name, will have to look why it happens. --Teknecal 11:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
This has been fixed now. --Teknecal 01:46, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Title SOLVED

Not a huge problem, but the title of 0.3 rev 11 still says rev 10. The description says rev 11 though. (this is in the HBC btw) Ensign R 10:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Please use the officially released v0.3 instead of the HBB revisions. --Teknecal 11:45, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
I am not sure what you mean by official, but I have only every used HBB to update itself, originally getting HBB 0.3 via the original Homebrew Browser. HBB then updated itself to rev 11 (or maybe I did d/l it again using the original HBB. I am too lazy to do things manually Ensign R 13:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


Not updating correctly SOLVED

Two apps I have keep showing up as having an update available, even though I have the current version of both. Even if I update through HBB they still have the yellow plus sign. The two apps are iiii (version 1.2) and Snes9x GX, which HBB reports me having version 4.0.0, when I have 4.0.3 installed. HBC reports my version as 4.0.3. Ensign R 10:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

As you are using Rev11, the list file only has iiii v1.2 (and not 1.2+) and SnesGX v4.0.0 (and not 4.0.0). The solution is to upgrade to official v0.3. It reports that these items are out of date because the list file is old. --Teknecal 11:45, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
As above I haven't manually installed anything. What it the best way for me to make it 'official'. I get prompted to update HBB when I use the old version. Should I press A and let it update using that? Ensign R 13:43, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
If you are on HBB v0.2.5d and it asks to update, do press yes and it will update you to HBB v0.3. Is there a reason you haven't updated? --Teknecal 13:56, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
OK. I have two versions of the HBB. The original old school one, which iirc is 0.2.5c, and 0.3 rev 11. I originally got 0.3 rev 10 by upgrading from 0.2.5c/d. I then had 2 copies of HBB, and still do. Somewhere along the way I upgraded to rev 11. This was not done manually either. I don't think I've manually copied anything to my SD since I originally installed HBB Ensign R 14:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
OK I think something must have screwed up when I originally installed ver 0.3. I just painstakingly removed HBBv03 from my SD card, using SD explorer, and reinstalled HBB from 0.2.5c. I now only have one HBB in my HBC, which is ver 0.3 and it all works fine. Can I now delete /temp/* from the original HBB install? Thanks Ensign R 16:03, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Yep you can remove /temp. --Teknecal 13:13, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Invalid Icon(s) SOLVED

  • When HBB starts it gets stuck checking icon 115 of 205, then resumes.
  • The listing for FCE Ultra GX has 'Invalid Icon' printed in the icons placeholder and 'noise' in the text placeholder.
  • The Winterman icon is screwed.

I just had a thought. I should try delete the files from ../temp and see if that fixes things, but I've already written this now. Ensign R 10:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

There is a good chance that 115 may be the FCEU icon. Please do remove all your temp folder and also upgrade to v0.3. In regards to Winterman icon, I'm not sure what causes it to change colours on the botton right of the icon. Icons like Geexbox used to do a similar thing, but I re-saved the PNG and it worked however re-saving the winterman icon didn't have any effect. --Teknecal 11:45, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Unexplained crash SOLVED

I had HBB crash on me for no apparent reason. It's an isolated incident that I haven't replicated. I did take a photo of the screen dump though if you'd like to take a look. Ensign R 10:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

core was dumped again (after fresh install). I was scrolling thru utils using down on the d-pad and the wiimote rumbling as I was hovering over the items. Ensign R 16:05, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
I'll take a look and see if I can replicate. Did the code dump have something like 8006e988--> 8006e948--> 80099cbc--> 80099c58? --Teknecal 09:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Should be solved in v0.3.2. --Teknecal 11:45, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


Cannot open file, aborting SOLVED

I updated my Homebrew Browser today to 0.3. After it downloaded the zip file with all of the images and extracted them, it said at the bottom of the screen: "Cannot open file, aborting" or something like that. Then, it went into the new Homebrew Browser GUI (which I like) and worked fine. I was just wondering if this error message means anything that I should know about. --Bdr9 14:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Can you see if this happens again? If so, when scrolling through the list do you see any icon that says "Icon not found"? --Teknecal 10:29, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
After the delay after "Homebrew List Recieved", there is a lot of text that appears on the screen. I don't know if some of this is the "Icon not found" message, because it is so fast. None of the images in the list say "Icon not found". I was really just wondering if the error message meant anything that I should know about. Also, by the way, I think that you should be able to go to a different homebrew category while you are in the details screen for a homebrew. There are several places where you cannot get to the categories without hitting B, and pressing the category buttons does not work. Otherwise, the 0.3 update is great! Thanks! --Bdr9 22:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
That is a bit worrying. I think it's happening when it's trying to load the icons to memory. I have added some pauses and text to say what it's doing so that should help, can you try this version here: http://www.codemii.com/hbbv030test.dol --Teknecal 09:49, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
I ran this debug version of the Homebrew Browser. This was its output: Homebrew Browser 0.3 / *Some ID I'm sure you don't need to know* / Waiting for network to initialize... / Network initialized. / Settings loaded. / Requesting IP address of www.codemii.com / IP address of www.codemii.com successfully retrieved. / Requesting Homebrew List... / Homebrew List recieved. / Going to load icons / Loading image 0/209 / File found / File size ok, going to load to memory / Loading image 1/209 / File found / File size ok, going to load to memory / Loading image 2/209 / File found / File size ok, going to load to memory / Loading image 3/209 And then it goes into the Homebrew Browser GUI. The original problem does not affect the usage of the program at all, and I cannot replicate it. --Bdr9 14:43, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Are you sure the HBB is installed in the right folder on your SD card? Maybe some paths are hard-coded. -- MetaFight 16:36, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
You could always delete all the files in the /apps/homebrew_browser/temp directory, retry the HBB test and see if it happens again, it might just be when you download the zip file at the start. --Teknecal 08:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
My Homebrew Browser folder in apps is "homebrew_browser". It must be right because I updated it with the original program. This whole problem is probably nothing to be worried about, because I have only gotten this message once. This was when I was downloading the zip file after updating from the previous version. The Homebrew Browser still works fine, and doesn't show anything abnormal now. I just saw that message fly by after I updated, and was wondering if it meant anything. --Bdr9 14:28, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Remove UAE4Wii SOLVED

Violates GPL. LoganA 19:48, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Has been removed. --Teknecal 09:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I guess the new version is fine to add now? --Teknecal 12:42, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Crash while browsing the Category Games SOLVED

When I browsing in the Games Category, every Time when scroll down, the HBB will Crash. The most times, it will happens, under the middle and when i will change the order of the Games Category it will crash too! (I hope you will understand what I mean, because I'm not perfect in English ;) ) --Freigeist 16:18, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Do you have v0.3.2? Is there anything else I need to do to be able to replicate this issue? --Teknecal 11:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
The Error was only in 0.3.1, which was the first Version i used, i think it's great ;) --Freigeist 18:50, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


Erroneous package

Hello there. The package "Homebrew Menu Demo" by Arikado of his library The HOMEbrew Menu Standard Library is in fact a demo of my HomeMenu. There must have been a mix-up when the file was uploaded. Could you rectify this please? Thank you -- MetaFight 04:12, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, this has been updated. --Teknecal 00:59, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you :) -- MetaFight 01:13, 7 June 2009 (UTC)